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FIRST ON FOX: Rep. Mary Miller, R-Ill., asked two university medical leaders in a tense hearing Tuesday to directly answer whether non-biological women can have babies and didn’t receive a straight answer, prompting a fiery statement from the congresswoman to Fox News Digital.

“Doctor (Sam) Hawgood, you see UCSFs Classroom Guide, titled ‘Framework for Gender and Sex Concepts in Teaching,’ advises against using the term pregnant women,” Miller told the chancellor of the University of California San Francisco in an Education and Workforce Committee hearing on DEI’s impact in medical schools.

“Instead, it says to use pregnant people. Who are pregnant people compared to pregnant women? Just curious.”

Hawgood responded by saying that terminology is “part of a curriculum to help our students who are facing a wide diversity of patients before saying the “vast majority of pregnancies are in women” and that he has “absolutely no problem with the term pregnant women.”

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“Has a non-biological woman ever had a baby?” Miller asked, and Hawgood responded that a “transgender person can.”

“That’s not a biological woman. Has a non-biological woman ever had a baby?” Miller shot back.

Hawgood responded, “I would reiterate” before Miller interrupted saying, “It’s ridiculous.”

“Lastly, Dr. Dubinett, a required course at UCLA medical school advises ob-gyn students not to, and, I quote, assume gender identity,” Miller told Dr. Steve Dubinett, dean of UCLA School of Medicine.

“OK, from another class in May of 2026. It included a disclaimer that while it uses the term she and women, it does not intend to exclude, and I quote, ‘those who have a uterus but do not identify with these terms.’ What does that even mean?”

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The dean responded, “I’m not familiar with that announcement that I’d have to read the entire thing.”

Miller pressed Dubinett and asked, “Can someone have a uterus but not be a woman? Because it seems like your school is promoting that ridiculous idea?”

Dubinett did not directly answer the question but said that the school is “treating transgender people,” but “we’re doing that in compliance with state and federal law.”

Miller pressed again, asking Dubinett if the school teaches biology, to which Dubinett answered, “Yes we do.”

“This is curious,” Miller responded. “So, I’m going to ask you again, can someone have a uterus and not be a woman? Just say yes or no. Can they?”

“Again, I would,” Dubinett said before being interrupted by the committee chair as Miller’s time expired.

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“That’s what your medical school is promoting,” Miller said. “Chairman, it’s clear these medical schools are hiding DEI curriculum under the guise of medical access.”

Miller, in an exclusive statement to Fox News Digital after the hearing, said, “It shouldn’t take a medical degree to answer a basic biology question. This hearing exposed that our medical schools have become consumed by political ideology that they’re losing sight of reality. Patients just want doctors grounded in common sense. Medical schools that abandon scientific truth should lose their accreditation.”

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Fox News Digital reached out to Hawgood and Dubinett for comment.

The House Education and Workforce Committee held a hearing, “Training Activists, Not Physicians: The Impact of DEI on Medical Schools.” The hearing focused on whether diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives at medical schools, including the University of California, Los Angeles; the University of California, San Francisco; and the University of Illinois, have shaped admissions policies, contributed to antisemitism and influenced medical school curricula.

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